thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> clint, let me start with you. >> sure. >> what struck you about james holmes' appearance in court today? >> you know, notwithstanding anybody who comes into court with a jump suit looks like they're guilty of something, they're a criminal anyway. but, al, it was that flat, emotional affect, that unemotional look. that his eyes if they were focused they were looking down, they were blinking. it was like he really wasn't -- it was like he wasn't involved. it was like he was in this dream world and there was somebody else seated there where maybe part of him was somewhere else. now, we look at that red hair, al, and you and i say anybody who does that they're trying to send a message. well, if he was a joker, he should have had green hair, not red hair. so what does that mean? and if you look at the pictures, you see his eyes.